Narrative Reports Rootsmagic 9 on Mac

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Hi to you all, just joined Roots Magic and needing some advice please. I have been running narrative reports using NGSQ and I have just noticed that any people who are not married are not shown. Is this expected for NGSQ and NEHGS? They appear in the other options. I thought maybe it was something to do with the child, so I tried it for other families and once again anyone not married does not show up on Second generation.

I have checked this by running just one generation and the results are the same and shown below as an example.

John and Rebecca have 3 children and they are shown William, Elizabeth and James.

On the Second Generation page the facts and details are there for William and James the number even shows Elizabeth missing as William is 2 and James is 4 but Elizabeth 3 is not shown.

Is this to be expected for that report or it is it an error?

Narrative Report for John Tarling-436

First Generation

  1. John Tarling was born about 1788 in Harlow, Essex, England, United Kingdom 1791 on 1851 census

John Tarling and Rebecca Boyton were married on 8 Oct 1815 at All Saints Church in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

Rebecca Boyton, daughter of Robert Boyton and Mary Piggot, was baptized on 8 Nov 1786 at St. Mary the Virgin Church in Moreton, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

She was born in 1793 in Morton, Essex, England,

John Tarling and Rebecca Boyton had the following children:

+2 i William Tarling, born 9 Jun 1816, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom; married Amelia Lowen, 14 Nov 1844, Theydon Garnon, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom; died 1871, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.
3 ii Elizabeth Tarling was born in 1825 in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom
+4 iii James Tarling, born 10 Sep 1828, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom; married Eliza PEACOCK, 26 May 1855, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom; died 1892, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

Second Generation

  1. William Tarling was born on 9 Jun 1816 in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom

William Tarling and Amelia Lowen were married on 14 Nov 1844 in Theydon Garnon, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

Amelia Lowen, daughter of George Lowen and Sarah Bonney, was born on 26 Nov 1824 in North Weald Bassett, Essex, England, United Kingdom Birth Year could be 1827

William Tarling and Amelia Lowen had the following children:

+5 i John Tarling, born 25 Dec 1845, Theydon Garnon, Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom; married Eliza White, 9 Oct 1864,

  1. James Tarling was born on 10 Sep 1828 in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom

He was baptized on 5 Oct 1828 at All Saints Church in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

James Tarling and Eliza PEACOCK were married on 26 May 1855 in Epping, Essex, England, United Kingdom.

James Tarling and Eliza PEACOCK had the following child:

13 i Sarah Ann Tarling was born in 1858 in North Weald Bassett, Essex, England, United Kingdom

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This is the standard behavior of NGSQ and NEHGS reports. Individuals who have a spouse or who have children are listed as children of their parents and also are carried forward to the next generation. Otherwise, they are not carried forward to the next generation. Because this is the standard behavior for the reports, this behavior is not a bug in RM.

A person does not have to have a Marriage fact to be carried forward. Having a spouse (really, a “partner”) is sufficient. And a person does not even have to have a spouse if they have a child. A person in RM can have a child without having a spouse. This is a common way to enter the data when the other parent is unknown.

For the most part, I like this standard behavior of NGSQ and NEHGS reports and I would not like it if every person were always carried forward to the next generation. For example, my most important reports are printed reports for family reunions where living people are included and everybody wants to be sure that their most recent grandbabies are included. In these cases, not carrying the youngest generation forward makes a lot of sense and saves a lot of paper.

But occasionally I have a person who for some reason I do want to carry forward even though they do not have a spouse or a child. For example, they may have a lot of facts or other data and displaying all these facts and data in the list of children looks totally terrible. Also, the basic sentence for people in the list of children is not under control of RM’s sentence templates, which I do not like. In these cases, there is a trick I use to get persons carried forward on a purely case by case basis. The trick is not supported by RM and involves direct manipulation of the RM database using SQLite. It requires programming skills and knowledge of the RM database schema.

I wish instead that there were simply an option where I could mark a person to be carried forward. I would not be happy with a report feature that would carry every person forward as an option for that report. To be effective, I think such an option needs to be on a person by person basis.

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Fantastic, glad it was not just me or something I had selected in error.

Appreciate the reply, thank you.