I end up with duplicate facts for everyone when sharing marriage fact for groom, bride, both sets of parents. Grooms parents each have marriage-child & parent of groom fact. Bride has marriage, groom has marriage & groom marriage fact, brides parents each have parent of the bride. Mother has marriage-child. The shared icon is on parent of groom, parent of bride, & groom marriage. Using RM11. I only add each shared person to the bride.
Sentences for bride & groom were correct using marriage fact.
Groom marriage fact was goofy,= Paul, groom was present at the marriage of Paul & Dorothy on date in place. S So I deleted groom marriage & every fact was lost..
When it comes to a Marriage fact… there is no groom’s fact versus bride’s fact. When you added that fact… you added it to only one person (and RootsMagic added it to the other automatically). You did not add a marriage fact to each spouse. They are not individual or separate. They are one and the same fact. Any deletion is a deletion for all who shared in that singular fact.
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Thank you that makes sense. After I add the one marriage fact,
do I then add each parent as a shared person?
I am grateful for your answer - I won’t brag about how many times & ways I have tried without success on this issue.
Have a good rest of your day. 
vma
Yes, it is then shareable and a role in the shared fact can be selected for each sharee.
The online “context-sensitive” RootsMagic help (press F1 key from anywhere in the program) gives some bit of context. See: Sharing facts
Keep in mind, although the marriage fact belongs to the couple and then is being shared to other people, there’s a potential "gotcha” to understand. There have been instances where users later decided they no longer wanted the sharee to be part of the shared fact., so within the Edit Person screen of the sharee… they chose to delete the shared fact and did not pay attention to the message in the popup which is announcing that the original marriage fact (back at the sharer couple) is about to be deleted (not “unshared”). Desired unsharing needs to be done back at the sharer couple Edit Person screen (where all the sharees are checkmarked in the Shared With panel).
sometimes parents are witnesses – you can create a role as needed and share
Also if you have best man etc - you can share and if person is not part of “tree” you can use assocations
Let me provide a slightly different perspective on the Marriage fact, and similar facts such as Divorce that are for couples.
It’s not so much that when you add a Marriage fact to one person that RM adds the Marriage fact to the other person at the same time. The Marriage fact is never really added to either person. So if it’s not really added to either person, where is it and why can you see it in the Edit Person screen for both people?
Suppose you are adding a Marriage fact for John Doe and Jane Smith and suppose that both of them already have Birth and Death facts. Before you add the Marriage fact, it’s like RM has a little envelope for John Doe with his name on it. Inside his envelope are two slips of paper, one with his Birth fact and the other with his Death fact. The same is true of Jane Smith. There is an envelope for her with her name on it and inside the envelope are two slips of paper, one with her Birth fact and one with her Death fact.
So now we have a new little slip of paper with their Marriage fact. Into which envelope does RM place that slip of paper? The answer is neither. Instead, RM creates a third envelope for the couple as a whole with both their names on it. It’s that third envelope where the slip of paper with the Marriage fact goes.
The RM user interface hides that third envelope from you, but it’s really there. For example, having put the Marriage fact into the third envelope, you can see the Marriage fact from either John Doe’s Edit Person screen or from Jane Smith’s Edit Person screen. And if you change something about the Marriage fact, the change is made in the third envelope. It’s not like the Marriage fact is in John’s envelope and Jane has a copy in her envelope, and that if you make a change for one then RM goes and makes the change for the other. John never had the Marriage fact nor did Jane. Who had the Marriage fact was the third envelope that you never see and which had both their names on it.
This third envelope I’m talking about is usually called a “family” in RM. That can be deceptive. For example, there is a Census (family) fact as opposed to just the plain Census fact which is for an individual. But if you use the Census (family) fact, it’s just for the third envelope which is just for the couple. It’s not also for the children as the label Census (family) might suggest. So I think this third envelope that I’m talking about that’s really there even though you can’t see it most of the time should be called a couple rather than calling it a family.
Such a couple can exist without a Marriage fact, as for example if the couple had a child together without being married, or even if they were actually married but you don’t know when or where they were married. Married or not, RM typically calls the two people spouses, which frequently drives RM users crazy for couples who were never married.
One place you actually can see couples very directly is the main Couple tab at the top of the main RM People screen. And here, RM does call them a Couple rather than Spouses or Family.
A Marriage fact in that third envelope can be shared just like any other fact. But if it’s shared with a role such as Parents and if you share it with all four Parents, it’s shared with the Marriage fact in that third envelope that’s for the couple as a whole. It’s not like there is one Marriage fact for John Doe with his parents shared and another Marriage fact for Jane Smith with her parents shared. There is only one Marriage fact and it’s in the mysterious third envelope. Anything shared with the Marriage fact such as Parents or Best Man is therefore shared with the couple as a whole, not just with John and not just with Jane.
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I hesitated to add this based on the initial thread but, in the spirit of full disclosure,… RM allows you to share a fact with a new person (the '“Sharee” for lack of a better term) and/or delete a shared role from the edit person screen of a sharee. You just need to take care to click on the “Share” column first and then you can add or delete a person from a shared role.
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I didnt realize you could go back to the shared with panel in the sharers edit person screen. (Bride).
I dont see how to unmark the husband in the shared with but I do see a garbage can.
I now have 4 parents as witnesses.
I now get marriage child (their child was married on/in.
Witness-marriage
I went back and put each shared person into the garbage. Leaving no shared person.
It solved the problem. Bride & groom have 2 marriage event. I guess the RM program automatically adds marriage child to each parent. Thank you for the advice on removing shared facts.
Thank you again. vma
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@vma Don’t know if you need this or want it but just in case-- on sharing you can create Parents of Bride and Parents of the Groom by using a sentence like
[ThisPerson:Given] [ThisPerson:Surname] was the <%father|mother|> of the Groom< [Person:Given:Surname]> when he married< [Spouse:Given:Surname]> <[Date]> < [PlaceDetails]>< [Place]>.
which gives you:
Daniel Frost was the father of the Groom Bob Frost when he married Snowflake Lee…
You can if you want leave off the part that is in BOLD-- For the Bride, you would do a few minor changes–just keep in mind that the WIFE is always < [Spouse:Given:Surname]> and the hubby is always <[Person:Given:Surname]>
[ThisPerson:Given] [ThisPerson:Surname] was the <%father|mother|> of the Bride < [Spouse:Given:Surname]>**when she married < [Person:Given:Surname]> <[Date]> < [PlaceDetails]>< [Place]>.
I don’t quite understand what you mean by that. The bride and groom should only need one marriage event.
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You should have 1 marriage fact for the couple.
Not clear what you mean by “adds marriage child to each parent” - children aren’t connected to parents’ marriage. (usually they are born after the marriage)
Some of the users here offering help may be wondering if some of your progress description is based on when you are observing just the facts themselves (and reports/etc.) -or- whether some of your phrasing in describing your results might relate to RM’s “other feature” that turns on by default which is Show relative events (a mini-timeline feature for each Edit Person window).
Yes, precisely. Screen shots of what you are seeing would be very helpful.
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The parents show a marriage- child in their highlighted event, then date, then bride-groom names with place. (The bride & groom are their children).
I just deleted my mess. When I re-entered the fact & source citations the marriage child didn’t show up on 3 parents.
Maybe because I had very little data for grooms parents. Although I have plenty of data for the father of the bride & the marriage-child did not show up in his events. I am shutting down my computer & updating it & will then open RM11 & get screen shots for you.