Rearranging Source Media

Hi all, I am still on RM8, it took so long to get it I am afraid to move on. However I am looking for a feature that doesn’t exist in 8. I was hoping to verify it is in 10 before upgrading.

I am trying to rearrange media attached to a source. The source is an old photo album and I want the pages in order when I print it to a source scrapbook.

Can anyone confirm for me that I will be able to do that?

Thanks RMFam
Don

Dump RM8 and upgrade to 10. You are two versions behind of bug and feature fixes–never a good idea.

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Does that mean it is available in 10?

I do not see any means in the user interface of RM10 to rearrange the media for a Source but the underlying database structure and Scrapbook report for a Source supports it. I just did a test directly editing the SortOrder column of the MediaLinkTable and the Scrapbook report followed the order I set.

Edited to remove fallacious statements…

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Hi Tom, thank you. Was the MediaLinkTable made available from RM10, or is that for 7’s database? Is this is something you did outside of RM?

Sorry I skipped saying that I used a SQLite 3 GUI manager to directly edit the table in the RM 10 database file. The table in question has existed (with changes) in all versions of RM that use the SQLite database engine, from 4 on.

Awesome, thank you! That’s what I am looking for.

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I have seen drag n drop media sorting in other software – not present in the RM UI.

Kevin

Perhaps this might answer your question. The New Media Album in RootsMagic 9

You definitely can rearrange the media for a citation from the RM user interface, which is what I suspect you are looking for. You can’t rearrange the media for a source from the RM user interface.

To rearrange the media, go into the Edit Person window and then click the media icon on the far left hand side of the page. Click at the top where it says All Media and scroll down to the citation which has multiple media files which need to be rearranged. I think the user interface for this function is a little quirky and non-intuitive, but it does work. Definitely view the video listed by alainemk just above here.

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Yes. That video should help. The explanation of how to rearrange media for an event is at the 12 min mark.

Thank you all. Moving from the source to the citation makes a lot of sense to me, unfortunately I am still on 8. Ill look to upgrade the next time a promotion comes around. Its a life long project, I can move onto other things until that day comes.

Thanks for pointing that out. I completely missed the Rearrange Media button as does the RM10 Help system. If @DLovejoy does have all the media tagged to one Citation, then he can arrange the media for that Citation. But there is no Scrapbook Report for a Citation, only for the Source.

If there is just the one Citation, then the Scrapbook report for the Source covers all the media for that Citation in the order that it was arranged. However, if there is media tagged to more than one Citation of the Source, then all the media for the first created Citation in its default or rearranged order is followed by all the media for the second Created Citation in its default or rearranged order is followed by…

If the same media item is tagged to more than one Citation of the Source covered by the Scrapbook, then it is repeated.

If each media item is tagged to its own Citation of the Source, exclusively, then there is no mechanism to control the order in the Scrapbook report for the Source - it can only be in the order the Citation was created.

Edit: To clarify, the Scrapbook Report includes all the media tagged to the Master Source in the order tagged (MediaLinkTable.LinkID) followed by all the media tagged to each Citation in the order that the Citation record (CitationTable.CitationID) was created, subsorted by the order in which the media was tagged to the Citation or rearranged (MediaLinkTable.SortOrder), regardless of the number of Citations and the number of uses of each Citation. If there are no Citations with media, only the media tagged to the Master Source is output. If a Citation with media is used multiple times, the media is output once. If a media item is tagged to the Source and Citation(s), Scrapbook includes it as many times as there are tags, i.e., 1 + number of Citations to which it is tagged.

Edit #2: I just noticed that there is an option in the Scrapbook report for a Source whether to include Citation Photos. So one could tag all the media items to the Master Source and some of the same to multiple Citations thereof and choose to include only those tagged to the Source. Therefore, just one instance of each in the report. However, the lack of a Rearrange Media control for the Source remains an issue.