Groups - enhancement, feature

I have created a group call HYPOTHESIS. In the case of today, I added a person to that group because I think he might be a persons father, but I don’t have proof yet. I added a couple more people because I think that they may be related (children of the father). I also add information in the name note field in the persons profile/info the word HYPOTHESIS and why I think so.

I then did a search using the HYPOTHESIS group and in the list were OTHER people that I had forgotten that I had added them to the group in the past. I then had to go to that person to view the note to see why I had added them to the HYPOTHESIS group.

My request to have the ability when adding someone to a group to also add a note/comment as to WHY and have that information display on the search results screen so that I don’t have to go look it up on the profile.

Thank you.

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I totally get where you are coming from, but I think this would be an extremely difficult enhancement to implement. That’s because at its core, a group is just a list of RIN numbers. Well, since the implementation of rules groups and its predecessor of refreshable groups, groups have supported having rules. But things like your HYPOTHESIS group would need to be based on a rule in such a way that relationship between the rule and the person could be displayed.

I presently accomplish something similar to your HYPOTHESIS group by using custom facts (AKA user defined facts). For example, if I wanted to implement your HYPOTHESIS group, I would created a custom fact called HYPOTHESES. I would set the fact to support the Description field and not to print in Narrative reports or Family Group Sheets. I would enter a short version (up to 100 characters) of my hypothesis in the Description field of the HYPOTHESES fact, with a longer version if necessary in the note field of the HYPOTHESIS fact.

It would be trivial to search for people with the HYPOTHESIS fact, to color code based on the HYPOTHESIS fact, and to make groups based on the HYPOTHESIS fact. Such groups could be rules groups, so they could adjust via a single click to additions or deletions or changes of HYPOTHESIS facts The test could be just the presence or absence of the HYPOTHESIS fact, or could include testing the Description Field or the Note.

The one thing my approach doesn’t get you is to tell you why the person has the HYPOTHESIS fact directly on the search screen. Well, it actually could, by making the Description field a column on the Search screen. I use groups a lot more than I use searches, so I often add columns to the People View for such things as the Description fields for my custom facts. So I can filter People View by my fact and the Description fields are already on the screen. But if you made a HYPOTHESIS fact to store your hypothesis information, you could add the Description field of the HYPOTHESIS fact to your search screen and leave that column there all the time.

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Thank you for your input. I think I will try to do what you have suggested.

I set up a custom fact HYPOTHESIS as you suggested. Added it to one of my persons with the information in the description. Modified my search (customize) to display the HYPOTHESIS fact and the information displays. Don’t know why I didn’t think of this myself - so THANK you. This does exactly what I want, so I don’t see a need for any kind of enhancement. (I do wish there was a better way to delete someone from the group - the edit function is kind of clunckly).

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It sounds like you are making a Simple group and adding people to the group manually. If you make a Rules group, then the rule for the group can be something like the presence or absence of the HYPOTHESIS fact or something about what is or is not in the Description field. WIth such a Rules group, you can simply click the Refresh icon for the group and the person will no longer be in the group if they no longer meet the criteria which defines the rule for the group.

As another option, even if you leave things as a simple group, you can add people to the group and remove people from the group without going all the way into the Edit Person screen. You can set the bottom half of the sidebar briefly to display groups rather than whatever else you normally keep in the bottom half of the sidebar. From there, you can click a check box to add or remove the person from the group. Well, you do have to have the person selected as the “current” person, but you don’t have to go all the way into the Edit Person screen.

Yes - I did a simple group. That you for the information about the rules group. I will try that.