Edit Person Media pane not allowing Scrapbook box for All Media filter

When the filter is set to All Media on the Edit person Media pane only the media attached to the PERSON allow you to select SCRAPBOOK and/or PRIMARY, these options are not available for the rest of the media

However if I filter on a specific citation the SCRAPBOOK and PRIMARY check boxes are available

It would be really useful if the SCRAPBOOK and PRIMARY check boxes were available from the ALL MEDIA filter so you could quickly add or remove items from the scrapbook.

It seems to me that the ability to select SCRAPBOOK and/or PRIMARY with the All Media filter is not actually possible. That’s because these options are applicable with respect to a scrapbook, and ALL Media is not a scrapbook. For the same reason, the option to sort media is not possible with the All Media filter because sorting is only applicable to scrapbooks and All Media is not a scrapbook.

For example, suppose there were media files for an obituary and for a death certificate. Suppose they were both linked to the Death fact. Suppose the media for the obituary was also linked to a citation for the obituary and that the media for the death certificate was also linked to a citation for the death. Finally, assume that both citations were linked both to the Death fact and to the Birth fact. Then both of these media would be in two different scrapbooks. With the All Media filter, you wouldn’t know which scrapbook the SCRAPBOOK and/or PRIMARY options were being applied to, and you wouldn’t be seeing the other media files in the same scrapbooks.

Bottom line: there is not a scrapbook for All Media. There are scrapbooks for things like people, events, sources/citations, and places. Options for scrapbooks only apply to scrapbooks.

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I may be misunderstanding but the scrapbook flag seems to be related to the media file, not the fact or the person. If I change the scrapbook flag for a media file it affects every event and/or person that shares this media file.

So the fact that ALL Media does show the scrapbook option for person should mean it should be able to show for other facts too.

So going back to my issue, when I look at the media tab with ‘All Media’ displayed and I look at the media linked to the ‘Person’ I do get the option to select the scrapbook option.

Yes, Person is a scrapbook, so the scrapbook option works for Person. But All Media is not a scrapbook, so the the scrapbook option does not work for All Media. You have to get down to a specific item under All Media before the scrapbook option works.

There are four kinds of scrapbooks in RM - Person, Family, Place, and Source. All Media is not one of the four kinds of scrapbooks.

There are no scrapbooks per se for events such as Birth and Death. Rather, if media for such events is marked for inclusion in a scrapbook, the media is included in the scrapbook for the person. Then, when you run a Scrapbook Report for a person, you can choose to include or not include the media files for all the events that are in the scrapbook for the person. But you can’t run a Scrapbook report just for a Birth event or just for a Death event.

There are no scrapbooks per se for events such as Marriage and Divorce. Rather, if media for such events is marked for inclusion in a scrapbook, the media is included in the scrapbook for the family. Then, when you run a Scrapbook Report for a family, you can choose to include or not include the media files for all the events that are in the scrapbook for the family. But you can’t run a Scrapbook report just for a Marriage event or just for a Divorce event.

There are no scrapbooks per se for citations. Rather, if media for citations is marked for inclusion in a scrapbook, the media is included in the scrapbook for the source that owns the citation. Then, when you run a Scrapbook Report for a source, you can choose to include or not include the media files for all the citations that are in the scrapbook for the source that owns the citations. But you can’t run a Scrapbook report just for a citation.

There are no scrapbooks per se for place details. Rather, if media for place details is marked for inclusion in a scrapbook, the media is included in the scrapbook for the place that owns the place detail. Then, when you run a Scrapbook Report for a place, you can choose to include or not include the media files for all the place details that are in the scrapbook for the place that owns the place details. But you can’t run a Scrapbook report just for a place detail.

This is all very long winded, but the Edit Person screen gives a useful but untrue impression that everything you are seeing belongs to the person. But that isn’t really true. For example, the person doesn’t own the Marriage fact and the Divorce fact even though those facts are right there on the screen like they belong to the person. They don’t. Instead, they belong to the family of which the person is a member. Most of the time, that sort of thing doesn’t matter and it’s potato or potahto.

But sometimes it matters, and this is a case where it matters. The person owns the media linked to the person and to the individual facts such as Birth and Death. The person does not own the media linked to the family and to family facts such as Marriage and Death. The person does not own the media linked to the sources and citations linked to the person or the individual facts or the family facts. And the person doesn’t own the media files linked to the places and place details that may be part of the person’s facts or family facts.

To use scrapbooks and Scrapbook Reports, you have to be aware of what a scrapbook is and of what things a scrapbook owns in a way you usually don’t have to be aware when using RM. So you can’t think of All Media as being the same as “all the person’s media”, and you can’t even think of “all the person’s media” as including the family and family fact media, the source and citation media for the person, or the place and place details media for the person. That’s simply not the way it works.

thanks for the clarification