I have an individual who was already synced with Ancestry, but with relationship to parents as birth. After amending the relationship to parents to adopted, TreeShare has them as a individual with changes, but doesn’t provide a way for the change to be uploaded to Ancestry. Why not?
I’m using latest RM11.
Probably only the RM staff can answer for sure. But likely it’s because the programming interface that Ancestry provides for use by software such as RM doesn’t support that particular data element to be transferred back and forth.
Putting aside the issue of transferring relationship to parents to Ancestry, I find the relationship to parents feature of RM to be supported in a very incomplete fashion. I cannot search based on it or color code based it or make groups based on it. I cannot display it in descendant narrative reports. As a result, I tend to include information about a person’s relationship to parents as notes.
RM does have an Adoption fact, but it is designed in such a way that it is only for the child and not for the parents, except in the sense that it could include a note about the parents. Well, you could also add a role to the Adoption fact - something like Adoptive Parents - and share that role with the parents. But RM doesn’t come with such a role built in. The Adoption fact comes with the generic Witness role which alone is pretty meaningless - just that a person “witnessed” the adoption, but of course that could have been a judge or other court official rather than the adoptive parents.
There are a number of changes that do not give the option to update (either way) in TreeShare but, given that, I find it useful that those individuals show up with ‘no changes’ in the TreeShare dialogue box. I learned years ago to always TreeShare after a session of research/updating. That way I usually (
)remember what I changed on that individual’s profile and manually update them on the other program/site after clicking the (X) no change button in TreeShare. Frustrating but just part of life’s rich tapestry, I suppose!
@thejerrybryan , I agree that the Adoption fact could do with a re-design, perhaps worth a feature request? It would be good, too, to have some marker on the ‘Pedigree’ view to indicate they are adopted, without having to open their profile to look for the fact (maybe something like a dashed line instead of a solid line to their parents?).
As Charlies was explaining—Whether you have the family in Ancestry already or you are uploading a new family, you have to change the relationship in Ancestry once they are in there–click on edit relationship in upper right corner and change to whatever you want–note the is last time I sent up a new kid with both bio and adopted, and it accepted it automatically…
That said, I hope that when you said TreeShare has them as a individual with changes, but doesn’t provide a way for the change to be uploaded to Ancestry.
That you meant it was NOT letting you do anything and/ or you did NOT try adding the changes to Ancestry as OMG-- that is the worse mess I ever saw-- I kept adding them because I wasn’t seeing anything change and ended up finally with about 8 of the same MOM, 5 of the same father, 3 of the same child and abt 4 sets of other kids for the parents-- it messed up the parents of the parents…
If you upload a new tree or a new person it will include the relationship to parents. There isn’t a way for us to update the relationship through TreeShare outside of that.
