In the description field I put a summary of the marriage eg William married Susannah Bevill in 1767 and George married Margaret Bevill in 1770
This gives me a simple way to identify these as I add to my database.
For now I have also created a fact type “Siblings who marry Siblings” which I just use the description field to enter the information because it looks like there isn’t a way to create a report of associations of a given type.
I am not a technical person so the words SQlite fill me with terror.
I really want to be able to quickly identify the sibling pair marriages and the “cousin” marriages in my database.
The instance where cousins marry is simple because I created an association type cousin marriages and have the role as cousin and a sentence template that indicates they married. The date is the date of the marriage and in the description field I indicate where the relationship is for example “Richard Kerswell Nicholls married his second cousin Elizabeth Ferris, his mother Mary Kerswell was her father Henrry Ferris’ first cousin.” I use the note field for the MCRA.
I cannot figure out the best way to do something similar for instances where brothers marry sisters, although I know there are many instances in my trees I cannot easily identify them currently. The association tool seems to be the right place but creating the definition is causing me an issue.
I think it would be easier to make a customized fact for siblings and then IF you are on RM 10, you could copy the fact to the other couple-- other wise share it with the other couple.
Associations is typically between 2 people and you don’t have an option to set up a family/ couple fact
That said off the top of my head the only way I can think of to use association is to set it up using [desc] only in both of the fact sentences and then under description put something like
Yoyo and Mary Doppler were sisters who married Mel and Thomas Acorn who were brothers.
Then do the same for the other couple-- it will show up in some reports
Maybe somebody with more experience can expand on this
One can add multiple Reference No facts. You’d have to decide about checkmarking Primary or reserving Primary for some other Reference No usage. Same with Private for exclusion when desired.
this type of report does not exist in RM if I understand correctly the direct result you are looking for. Possible with Sqlite but it would be complicated — you have to create a view (temporary or CTE) and look where there are common ancestor to both married couple.
You want something close to dynamic and non- manual as possible. I have only seen something similar to this is another software (and not not very many have that)
The quickly identifyvisually in the program , could be as simple as Color Coding -and- Groups .
The People List view allows you to Customize which facts (only 1 of each fact type) appear in columns. Those columns Sort descending/ascending each time that column heading is clicked, so they’ll wind up sorted together.
Reports offer Fact List>List type>People with this fact. Other reports have selection criteria for specific facts.
I you’re not an SQLite person, the manual method leaves the burden on you to remember to add the detail at each occurence.
The Reference No or similar fact could have the Description containing
a specific condition status name such as: sibling marriage / cousin marriage
-or-perhaps conjoined birth surnames in some manner like: Smith(Jones) for Male Smith m. Female Jones -and- Jones(Smith) for Male Jones m. Female Smith
I find it an interesting element that exists in my trees and I’ve overlooked it as a consideration.
I have a some complex color coding down by SQLITE
it help identify patterns of when and where cousins married in etc.
This might lack context to by highlights to me where /when double connections exist
the children on left would be expected to be all yellow
& spouses would all green but are not – meaning the last 2 have a double connection to those ancestors line – this method is not perfect but helps
