When I go to that web address it says URL not found!
It seems an alternative is to use Ancestry from file / treeshare – connect to ancestry, can I create a new tree in ancestry (I already have a basic on), that can then be shared?
Or is there another preferable way?
Really appreciate all the good advice, it’s certainly helping a newcomer!
With regard to the Ancestry question, you can share your Ancestry tree with as many people as you like, choosing various options such as whether they can see living people or not and whether they can just view the tree or contribute to it on a case by case basis. You share the tree on an individual basis and ancestry create a link you can email to the selected person. If the recipient has an Ancestry account your tree will be added to their tree list, if they don’t then they can create a free Ancestry account to view your tree but will not be able to view any Ancestry documents attached to it (but will see anything you added).
First get your Ancestry tree to match your RM one. Personally I would copy my main RM file, rename it (after backup) and upload that to Ancestry. If that goes well I would then use that new file as my main database. Alternatively you could sync your existing database to Ancestry via TreeShare, although that would be more time consuming and could be problematic.
@Colin2 I agree with Charlie on Ancestry BUT not sure I would use the new tree as my main tree-- I assume that since you said your database was complete that you are not planning on adding additional people–so it comes down to whether you are giving your friends and family editor rights-- if it’s read only then it would be okay as your new tree..
As for copying your file and uploading it to Ancestry I see why Charlie is saying to use that as your NEW TREE- I tried it–copied my TEST file–renamed it NEW TEST–then uploaded it to Ancestry using Treeshare and I now have 2 different databases connected to the same TREE-- I can only TREE SHARE from one database at a time
Which is great if you give others editor rights on the NEW FAMILY FILE and want to download their info into your new database version and then select what you want to move into your main database—
So it all comes down to if you are giving the people you invite read only access or editor rights --with editor rights you could set up the new tree to be tree shared with the NEW TREE only and NOT your MAIN TREE…
As for publishing onmyrootsmagic.com, you can NOT immediately access your newly created file–don’t know how long you have to wait-- I also know that some have had issues accessing their site after creating it BUT can NOT find the answer by searching above-- I do know that it can NOT be https://-- it has to be http:// BUT when I try to access my newly created site, it automatically defaults to https://–don’t know how to fix that…
Another option-- have your friends and family download the free version of RootsMAGIC and copy your info to a flash drive-- reason for using essentials is that if they had another program, they could open a gedcom BUT media does NOT transfer on a gedcom–so you would have to do a gedcom and a flashdrive for media
The media is never actually stored inside the GEDCOM file. But as far as transfer, it depends on what you mean by transfer.
I think it’s fair to say that for most practical situations, media does not transfer with GEDCOM. But if you enable the Extra details (RM specific) option, the GEDCOM does include your media links. What that means in practice is that if you import the GEDCOM on a computer where the media files already exist, and if the software doing the import understands RM’s media links, then the practical effect is that the media “transfers”, even though the media is not in the GEDCOM file itself.
These are pretty stringent conditions. If you send a GEDCOM to your cousin who doesn’t have your media files, the media files will not transfer. If you use GEDCOM to upload to Ancestry, the media files will not transfer. If you use GEDCOM to transfer data to a second computer of your own that doesn’t have the media files, the media files will not transfer.
The only two apps I’m aware of that understand media links in RM’s GEDCOM are RM itself and an app called GedSite which can be used to create Web sites from GEDCOM data. There are apps which can import RM’s media files by reading RM’s database directly, but that’s not the same thing as transferring RM’s media with GEDCOM. It’s as I already mentioned: it only works if you make sure that the media links are in the RM GEDCOM and if the media files are already on the computer doing the import and if the app doing the import understands the media links in RM’s GEDCOM. That’s a very stringent set of conditions that is rarely met.
Your reply certainly helps, but when I have my main tree open in Roots Magic 11, then go to publish / ancestry treeshare, it doesn’t allow me to create a new ancestry tree, it defaults to an existing ancestry tree.
Even if I rename my Roots tree, it still defaults back to that same tree, I have tried everything I know, logging in/out etc.
Also I looked at publish / myrootsmagic, which worked well, and produces a nice sharable tree, but it seems that it doesn’t include media files, such a jpeg image of a baptism etc., so when you look at the persons details, then that’s missing.
If these could be included in roots magic, then that would be perfect, as everything would be easily shareable, that is the reason I looked at adding a tree in ancestry.
If I had a tree in both sites, roots as the main, and ancestry for sharing, then if I changed something in one, I could easily change the other without too much effort.
You can have as many different trees as you like and connect them to Ancestry from RM but only one can be connected to each tree. If, for example, your tree is called ‘Colin’s Tree’ you can connect that to Ancestry but only to 1 Ancestry tree. The trick is to copy your RM database to a different folder on your computer and rename it - maybe ‘Colin’s new Tree’. Then move the renamed database back to the original folder (so you have both) and open the ‘new’ tree in RM - you should then be able to upload that new tree to a new tree in Ancestry and go from there. Avoid double clicking the new database to launch RM but open the program as normal and then open the new database.
My understanding is that Treeshare is always ONLY one RootsMagic database (your main tree in RM) directly tied to ONLY one Ancestry tree (the already existing Ancestry tree that established the Treeshare).
Pressing the F1 function key, anywhere within the program, ~tries~ to give “context-sensitive” help Ancestry TreeShare
-which also links to:-
"6. Can I upload the same RootsMagic Database more than once?
A RootsMagic database can only be linked to one Ancestry tree. To upload the database a
second time, you must disconnect it from the current Ancestry Tree. NOTE: You can link an
Ancestry tree to more than one RootsMagic database. This allows for collaboration between
family members.
7. How can I disconnect my RootsMagic database from the tree on Ancestry? "
The connectivity rules between RM databases and Ancestry trees can be a bit tricky.
From RM to Ancestry, the rule is simple, not tricky. Your RM database can only be connected to one Ancestry tree. Period. If your RM database is connected to one Ancestry tree and you want to upload that RM database to a second Ancestry tree, you first have to disconnect the RM database from the first Ancestry tree.
From Ancestry to RM, the rule does become tricky. That’s because one Ancestry tree can be connected to more than one RM database. But making it happen can be tricky. For example, suppose you want to set things up so that you and and your cousin have an RM database that are connected to the same Ancestry tree. And suppose you both already have an RM database. Those two RM databases cannot be connected to the same Ancestry tree. What you have to do instead is that you have to upload your RM database to a new Ancestry tree and then your cousin has to download that Ancestry tree to a new RM database. Now, your cousin has two RM databases. There is the original one that wasn’t connected to Ancestry, and still isn’t. And there is the new one that is connected to the same Ancestry tree as you. But what your cousin really wanted was for the original database to be connected to your Ancestry tree and not to have to have a new RM database. But that’s simply not the way it works.
You don’t have to have a cousin with whom you are sharing data for the concept to come into play. If you have two RM existing databases that you want to connect to the same Ancestry tree, you can’t do it. It doesn’t matter if the second RM database is on the same computer or on a second computer at your house or on a computer at your cousin’s house.
What this comes down to is that an existing RM database and an existing Ancestry tree can never become connected together. The only way to get TreeShare to work is to use TreeShare to copy an existing RM database to a new Ancestry tree or to copy an existing Ancestry tree to a new RM database, The difference in the directions is that you can copy an Ancestry tree to more than one new RM database, but you can only copy an existing RM database to one Ancestry tree.
@Charlie_Allingham@kbens0n@thejerrybryan -while what you all are basically saying is that Your RM database can only be connected to one Ancestry tree is the WAY it is SUPPOSE TO WORK-- that is NOT the case in this situation BECAUSE what you did was COPY your MAIN database–even though you renamed it, when you copied the Main database, it still had the original connection to your ANCESTRY tree share file–so when you treeshared the new file up to Ancestry it connected the new database to the Main database on Ancestry and your MAIN database is still connected as Colin said and as shown in these images where both my Main test file and the new test file are both now connected to the same Ancestry tree..
I’m not trying to be argumentative, but I think your scenario is consistent with what I said.
An RM database can be connected to only Ancestry tree.
An Ancestry tree can be connected to more than one RM database.
Your scenario is one of several ways to achieve #2
Here are several ways to achieve #2 where an Ancestry tree is connected to more than one RM database.
Make a copy of an RM database that is connected to Ancestry. This is your scenario.
Download an Ancestry tree that is connected to an RM database to a new and empty RM database. This new RM database can be on the same computer as the original RM database, or a different computer that you own, or a computer that another researcher owns.
Export a GEDCOM from RM and import it into a new and empty RM database.
Export a GEDCOM from RM and import into an RM database and import it into an RM database which is not empty and which is not connected an Ancestry tree. Although this works, it is not quite as powerful as it sounds. The the second RM database will be connected to Ancestry, but the only people in the second database connected to Ancestry will be the people imported in the GEDCOM.
Drag and drop some people to another RM database that is not connected to Ancestry. It really doesn’t matter whether the second database started out empty or not. The second database will be connected to Ancestry, but the only people in the second database will be those who were dragged and dropped.
