Is there a report that will show the patrilineal line for a given individual?
Paternal / Maternal Reporting?
Not sure exactly the type of view you are looking for – it sort of possible to create a group
Kevin
What I’d like is, given an individual, produce a report of that person’s father, grandfather, g-gfather, etc. as far back as there is data.
No, not possible short of printing something like an ancestor chart, dumping it to a word processor and heavily editing it.
OK thanks for the information.
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You can sort of kind of do it, but it’s a little convoluted.
- Make a group of the patrilineal line. The group could be made as the Y-DNA ancestors of the given individual.
- There may then be a report that would meet your needs that can be filtered by the group. But I can’t think of such a report.
- Therefore, drag and drop (or GEDCOM export/import) the group to an new and empty database that will be a temporary reporting database
- Run a report that would meet your needs in the temporary reporting database. The kinds of reports that I can think of that might meet your needs would be as follows: Ancestor Chart, Box Chart, Descendant Chart, and Descendant List. Obviously, any descendant report would need to start with the patriarch and any ancestor report would need to start with the descendant.
- Delete your temporary reporting database.
I don’t know that any of these would meet your needs exactly, but one or two of them might come close.
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Relationship Chart between most recent descendant and their earliest direct-line male ancestor. Unfortunately, their spouses need to be removed from the .DOCX file
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Mark-as @kevync1985 was saying it can be done BUT not with groups BUT rather color coding your paternal father, grandfather etc BUT that may NOT be easy depending on how many generations you have…
So make a list of their names, then select color coding under the pencil–pick the color code set, then set name and pick a color enter label and then mark people selected from list–after checking all hit select then Apply highlighted color and all the paternal line should be marked…
Create a new file using Empty file–making sure to give it a different name–drag any one person you have used the paternal color on into the new database–a box opens up and click on Let Me Select People from a list-- put a checkmark in every name that has the color-hit okay and okay and you shoud be good to go
Just to clarify: this step is really easy. Just start with the individual of interest in the most recent generation of interest.
I started with my grandfather and went all the way back. When I show the group in People List View and sort by birthdate, this is what it looks like.
Finally, rather than all those various built-in reports that might or might not give you the look and feel you want, just make a Custom report with two columns - the person’s complete name and their birth date - and filter the report by the group. Again, sort by birthdate. Here is what it looks like.
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I had not played with the genetic Options.
Would another way be to do all Direct ancestors and remove Females? (This is what I was thinking but was not at computer before)
@thejerrybryan Thanks for the detailed walk-through; this makes much more sense now, and looks like a viable approach. Thanks!
That would get 2 grandfathers, 4 great grandfathers, 8 second great grandfathers, etc. So that alone wouldn’t work.
But you could do the ancestors of the most recent generation as you describe, then do the descendants of the most distant generation, and do the Boolean intersection of the two. Well, you also would need to remove the females. That’s doable, but extremely convoluted. Following Y-DNA is much simpler.
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Make sense.
Unfortunately, while some more advanced search capabilities are available – they do lack the ability to “join” via Parenthesis and NOT (or anti join) within RM UI. (if you could do more than 2 groups at at time – that might be an option
You can solve a number of complicated Boolean logic problems in RM by combining marking and unmarking and by combining color coding with making groups. But as you point out, the problem remains that full Boolean logic with parentheses and NOT is not supported. It’s been frustrating to me for years.
However, remember that there is a new feature that may be found under Tools => Group Tools => Combine and Manipulate Groups. It is not found under the main Groups screen at all. With this new tool and given groups A and B, you can make a new group C consisting of people in both groups A and B (Boolean intersection), in group A and not in group B, in group A or B (Boolean union), or in group A or group B but not both.
I have not played with this feature very much, but it appears very powerful, albeit it’s a feature involving a lot of steps. With respect to this particular use case, you could make a group of descendants of the far in the past person and make a second group of the ancestors of the nearer person. Then the intersection of the two groups would be the direct line between them. But in this use case, Y-DNA is much easier approach.
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agreed that option is very useful but steps involved and not refreshable is one of its drawbacks