Merging 2 or more trees

I have an Ancestry account with 2 trees of more than 20,000 names each.
I want to merge those trees and upload back to Ancestry.
I downloaded both gedcoms from Ancestry and imported to RootsMagic. I tried the option to go straight from RM to Ancestry but it took over an hour and only 14% complete. I then exported a gedcom from RootsMagic and uploaded to Ancestry. The file uploaded fine but all the source links are showing up as other sources and the links don’t work.

How can I make this work?

Not sure – I have not tried.
you could download from ANC as TWO new RM Database (for each).
After you dowload you could create a new 3rd db intended to be the result of the merge
Drag N drop Db #1 and #2 to the third - you likely would have a fair amount of cleanup.
I would clean up before attempting a upload to Anc as a new tree in ANC

There might me some steps I am missing .

Kevin

I didn’t know you could drag and drop.
I tried a small tree and it didn’t work either. It looks like anything that is imported/converted to .rmtree and exported as gedcom then uploaded to Ancestry then the source links don’t work.

Ancestry only likes when you find hints in the online tree, even tho the gedcom sources came from them, it would be a real mess from their point of view.

IE: what if you had a Source from a book that isn’t part of Ancestry.

No way around it other then merge databases, upload via TreeShare, and then go thru each person and add the Sources from Ancestry.

I don’t think you can Merge trees on Ancestry website.

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you would have to ask other users who may have had experience with something similar to your scenario – here is the help link

I have only used that feature a couple times and only for a branch of people –

Kevin

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I would not do it that way – I would create a new db in RM – then upload via treeshare - when everythings looks good. The “3 way drag n drop” - you should ask users for other advise on what to do and what NOT to do. There probably is another software the will combine GEDCOMs but I not sure I would trust that approach. At least with RM – I could tell what happened. (and compare DB via SQLITE if needed).

I did create a new db in RM, imported the tree, but treeshare was too slow @ 1 hour and only 14% complete. I used Ancestris for a small tree merge and the source links worked when uploaded to Ancestry. Ancestris.com just has problems with larger files.

See this article on why keeping a tree in ancestry or syncing down to Rm is a bad idea.

Either only sync up as in FTM or do only manual entry in RM/FTM.

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I agree with the mostly – clarifying the once I get the RM tree as desired for that version I then upload that tree to ANC. Also I do no upload media to ANC. This means even at 20k person tree with 70K facts and 10K sources uploads probably in under 20 mins.

I guess nobody else is having this problem? I built a test tree in Ancestry with 2 persons and 1 Ancestry source, 1950 census. I exported from Ancestry, imported to RM, added 1 person, treeshare back to Ancestry as a new tree, When viewed in Ancestry the 1 source is now listed as “Other Sources” and the link to the 1950 census is not there.

RM is changing the “SOUR” tag value in the gedcom and now Ancestry doesn’t recognize it as an Ancestry source. I have submitted a help ticket, no results yet.

This is the way it’s always worked.

Ancestry is saying “not my source” even tho that is where you got it from. I imagine they do it because you could have a book as a source, funeral card, etc. so it gets lumped together as Other Sources.

You would think it wouldn’t work that way but …

Census, City Directory, etc get grouped as Residence in Ancestry.

Just because that is the way it always worked doesn’t make it right. RM changed the “SOUR” source tag value to something else that Ancestry doesn’t recognize. Why can’t RM leave existing tags?

This is not a Rootsmagic problem. The RM and Ancestry data models are two different beasts. Since Ancestry has a Residence into which it forces and Census data, i certainly wouldnt expect them do not mangle a source.

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I have tried the free program Ancestris and it was able to merge and keep the “SOUR” tag values. Ancestris just can’t handle the larger files that I need to merge.

It has been many years since I played with Ancestry GEDCOM. Have you found that a download followed by an upload to a new Ancestry Tree preserves the Ancestry Sources?

I have not found any sequence of actions that will preserve the Ancestry sources and keep them as a clickable link. The sources are still there but only as a source citation. If you look in the screenshot above the red highlighted line is changed merely by importing to RM.

I have submitted a help ticket, still waiting on a fix.

If an Ancestry Tree downloaded as a GEDCOM and then uploaded without modification to a new Ancestry Tree does not preserve the Ancestry Sources, then how can one expect a RootsMagic GEDCOM to do so? That was the reason for my question - your answer implies that even the GEDCOM roundtrip from Ancestry to Ancestry fails to preserve the Ancestry Sources as they appeared in the original Ancestry Tree.

I suspect you may be waiting a long time.

I am sorry I miss-understood your question. Yes, a gedcom exported/downloaded from Ancestry and then uploaded back to Ancestry as a new tree does preserve all source links. If it makes a trip through RM then, no it does not preserve the links.

I have taken small Ancestry trees and uploaded to WikiTree and the links worked and would take you back to Ancestry. Of course you had to have an account to see them,