Add FindaGrave cemetery name and weblink via TreeShare

I wish that when you save a FindaGrave record to a person via Treeshare that the cemetery name and the weblink were included. As of now, if you use Treeshare within RootsMagic and add a Findagrave source, no details are added. Alternately,i f you add a Findagrave source from within Ancestry.com, the link is included, but not the cemetery name. I would like to always get both the link and the cemetery name no matter which method I use, but especially using TreeShare within Rootsmagic.

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not sure if that is currently possible with the API – but if it is that could be done via an enhancement. Webtags might be a possibility
I do my own stuff concerning things like that.

I do it now myself manually, but sometimes forget when I am doing it from the RM side and it would be nice if it was just automatically included and all in one step. And on the Ancestry side, although it includes the webtag, there is not an option to include the cemetery name, unless you manually add it to the place name … but then you have to clean up the “misplaced details” in places later. So a lot of steps either way.

I think that is an Ancestry issue rather than a RM one. I find it easier to add those facts in Ancestry (like you) and then just adjust the location in the burial fact generated by accepting the hint. I suspect that all web hints in RM are already shown as hints in that person’s profile on Ancestry.

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I wondered about that. I’ll see if anyone from RM replies to know for sure.

Thanks for your reply!

yeah I get what you mean – first of all I put “cemeteries” in the 5th place I would not put (or want) them in details – that is my personal choice not really a suggestion to you.

I am a lumper, so I want them in the details.

maybe you misunderstood
the reason I do not use place details is so I can lump among other things

nothing wrong with either approach.

fine using the fifth place for cemeteries only or burials much more versatile mostly because of the way the Gedcom work and RM limitations on place details. For other things (Not burial or cemetery related) such as High school – I use place details

You are right. Whatever best serves your needs is right for you. It’s a shame, though, that every bit of info from an Ancestry source, especially FAG, but also things like some land patents, land taxes, and some military records do not transfer pertinent info like dates, but attaches the source to just the person. Some do, but some don’t. But that is another (and bigger) topic for another day! I think between the 2 of us, we have exhausted the subject :head_shaking_vertically:. But i would still like to hear from RM to see if it is something that is possible from their end, or if it is totally in Ancestry’s control.

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I would not hold my breathe waiting to hear. Rootsmagic generally doesn’t divulge anything like the info you are asking for. The best response that you might get is that it has been submitted to development for their consideration.

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No I won’t turn blue over this. Thanks for your response!

What is included on an Ancestry source would be something they control. You will find a wide variation on what is included in their various collections.

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Yeah, that is what I thought. Thanks for your reply!

I stopped importing ALL FindaGrave results from Ancestry because I don’t want thousands of duplicate sources in RM. I manually created ONE source that I call “FindaGrave (Master)” and it is super easy to manually enter the Citation information for each Person. Part of the benefit of doing this is that I can enter the exact URL for the record in FindaGrave without the tag from Ancestry (which makes the URL unnecessarily long.) I manually enter all the information for the person under the Burial fact in the Citation Details, with the Cemetery Name as the Places Detail fact. Since most records don’t have the burial date, I always make that “aft” whatever the Death fact date is so it shows up sequentially in my RM timeline.

These are the steps I go thru once I’ve selected my RM Source" FindaGrave (Master)

  1. Citation Name: Full name of the Person (b-death year)
  2. Detail: Memorial ID (copy number from FindaGrave): Copy/Paste the Citation Name.
  3. Citation Web Tags:
    1. Open window and Paste the Citation Name in the Description Line
    2. Copy/Paste the URL directly from FindaGrave. To get rid of any tags from the URL, I first delete everything in the URL AFTER the Person’s name. When you do that, the screen will refresh to be just the record in FindaGrave.
  4. If there are photographs on the FindaGrave page that I want to import into RM, I go to the Media line within the Source field and go thru the same process: First I copy/paste the Citation Name to name the media, and then I download the photo from FindaGrave, save it to my computer media file for RM as usual.
  5. Now it is super easy to just “Memorize” this Citation and “Reuse” it for other Facts that I might also want to attribute to the Person (usually “Birth” and “Death.”)

I feel like my footnotes are clearer than using directly what Ancestry would import and this keeps FindaGrave from having thousands of Source records in RM. Personally, I’d rather have one source and thousands of Citations:

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Thanks for your detailed reply. It sounds like our methods are similar :slight_smile: I merge all of the FAG sources, so I end up having just one source with hundreds of citations. I don’t use burial dates unless I know from an obit exactly what day it was. I have an SQL script that sequences empty burial date events to always be listed after death events. And if I don’t have any burial info (place or date), I don’t use the event at all. Also, re: the long url, I right click on the FAG number on the main page and copy the link and paste into RM and it gives me just the short version.

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Thanks. I wish I knew SQL because I know there are many finctions I could streamline.

this is more of an FYI of what I did not as much a suggestion. I created a Find-a-grave Template that meet EE standards

Wow that is very impressive. If I was just starting out, I might use that or something similar.

I don’t know. SQL either, but there are some very kind and generous people who do and they can be found at a website called something like SQL for Rootsmagic.

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SQLite Tools for RootsMagic

is the site. If you have same basic understanding of database structure it would be helpful.

AI such as Gemini can also be helpful – it can write some from scratch but usually needs to be tweaked and corrected (Mostly when you do not give the actual structure or ask the right questions it makes guesses)