# REF # details not printed on Family Group Sheets **URL:** \ **Category:** RootsMagic\ **Tags:** question\ **Created:** [November 16, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542 "2021-11-16T10:45:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mervynjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@mervynjohn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/mervynjohn)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/1 "2021-11-16T10:45:18Z")
The ahnentafel numbers that I enter in the “ref #” field for each person are not printed on the Family Group Sheets. What have I done to cause this? It is a most essential pars of my filing system. ---
**Author:** ![kbens0n](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.rootsmagic.com/kbens0n/32/80_2.png) [@kbens0n](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/kbens0n)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/2 "2021-11-16T16:03:49Z")
> [@mervynjohn](#): > > What have I done to cause this? Nothing. RM8 is not currently reporting Description field content like RM7 did. ---
**Author:** ![alainemk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@alainemk](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/alainemk)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/3 "2021-11-16T16:20:55Z")
Have you checked General Settings to see if the display option is set to show REFN? I am assuming this is what you mean by ref # field. I have found that the reports print the number that is set here. I usually change the setting to None as I don’t like to see any number displayed with a person in my reports but using the ahnentafel is interesting. ---
**Author:** ![mervynjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@mervynjohn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/mervynjohn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/4 "2021-11-17T10:01:09Z")
Thanks for your response, but I did mean Ref # not REFN. It is one of the many items in the long list of Fact Types list when the big + is selected for a person. I choose to display the FSID, then I can easily access people in FamilySearch. Another person has told me that such items are not printed - I will look into that now. ---
**Author:** ![mervynjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@mervynjohn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/mervynjohn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/5 "2021-11-17T10:08:24Z")
Thanks Kevin - that is bad news . I guess I have to take it up with RM8 folks. Mervyn ---
**Author:** ![alainemk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@alainemk](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/alainemk)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/6 "2021-11-17T13:46:12Z")
The REFN is the number that comes from the fact Ref # and it will be displayed as the number next to the person’s name in reports if REFN is chosen as the display option in settings. John is correct, that a description is not printed. ![REFN display in reports](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/rootsmagic/original/1X/5df5fd0a580266ce1c400062b09a1ba77f023039.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mervynjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@mervynjohn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/mervynjohn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/7 "2021-11-18T07:18:24Z")
Good Morning Alaine, Many thanks for your explanation. I now understand that either the FSID or the REFN can be displayed next to a name. The problem is that I find both codes essential. The answer to my problem is to use the “Other” slot instead. Mervyn ---
**Author:** ![Starthorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@Starthorn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Starthorn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/8 "2021-12-02T15:18:26Z")
Hi Mervyn; Did you take this up with RootsMagic and get any response? I have a custom Fact Type for the Find A Grave Memorial ID number that uses the Description field to store the data. They print on a narrative report because I defined a sentence, but not on a Family Group Sheet (even though the empty field is printed). Thanks! Stan ---
**Author:** ![mervynjohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@mervynjohn](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/mervynjohn)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/ref-details-not-printed-on-family-group-sheets/2542/9 "2021-12-08T09:16:19Z")
Thanks for getting in touch. I now understand that the contents of Ref# can only be printed in brackets after a person’s name and not with other facts. I have chosen to use the Place field of Other instead. This is because I want the FSID next to the person and the contents of the Other field for filing and identification purposes. Mervyn