# Data conversion from RM7 to RM9: no place detail notes in RM9 **URL:** \ **Category:** RootsMagic\ **Tags:** question, rootsmagic\ **Created:** [July 9, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915 "2023-07-09T17:43:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jasper2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@Jasper2](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Jasper2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/1 "2023-07-09T17:43:08Z")
Bonjour, I tried to export RM7 file to RM9. Place detail notes are not available on RM9 ! And an other question : I plan to change to RM8. What are the limitations ? What are data not transfered ? Thank’s ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/2 "2023-07-09T18:54:46Z")
Hi @Jasper2 — it actually is available on RM 9 BUT NOT like in RM 7 that I can see… In RM 7 when entering a fact, you could add the note on the person’s edit screen ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/rootsmagic/original/2X/1/1bf342b9cd4144ee65aa9b093299cbea0766fa79.png) In RM 9, you go to PLACES IN THE LEFT COLUMN, pick the name of the place then hit NOTE on Right side of screen to add your notes… ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/rootsmagic/original/2X/5/524bd74fedcbc08e68c5c4466952e03a84c0e00a.png) ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/3 "2023-07-09T19:13:54Z")
So if you have RM 9, why are you changing to RM 8?–Just curious… Limitations-- the guys can probably tell you a lot more but in my opinion, RM9 and RM8 are very similar except RM 9 has added features… Since Rootsmagic upgraded to RM9, there will be no more updates to RM 8 but I am sure that you could probably still use it for many years… You can’t take a file that has been opened in RM 9 and open it in RM 8 BUT you can make a gedcom of your RM 9 file and import it into RM 8 ( or RM 7). note @TomH ( and others ) have said there can be a loss of info when importing by gedcom-- I’ve never experienced it BUT here is a site from Tom [TomH](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/TomH) [Nov '21](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/copying-dragging-records-across-database-files/2472/5) For a comprehensive list of GEDCOM losses: [https://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.com/gedcom-dnd-transfer-losses/](https://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.com/gedcom-dnd-transfer-losses/) These are the files than can be imported in RM 8 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/rootsmagic/original/2X/d/d9223b65850246929388cb9ac6e7f32e1aefcc6b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Rooty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rooty](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Rooty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/4 "2023-07-09T19:24:36Z")
RM8 was an unsupported alpha release with no manual, many bugs and frequent access violation crashes. RM9 is the first true release with a manual and videos in the can. No same person would use RM8. ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/5 "2023-07-09T19:43:25Z")
@Rooty --sorry had to laugh at your post–Yes RM 8 has many bugs and frequent access violations BUT RM 9 also has many bugs and frequent access violations-- only difference is that RM 9 will be updated in the future while RM 8 will remain as it is… ---
**Author:** ![Jasper2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@Jasper2](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Jasper2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/6 "2023-07-09T20:44:01Z")
Thanks to all of you, Sorry, I didn’t express myself well I tried the RM9 version, using an RM8 file coming from RM7. After your replies, I then transferred the original RM7 file to RM9. In this case it works. I was able to recover the detail notes for the locations. I do have one question, though. Is there an automatic procedure for reintegrating the location detail notes into the location notes, since my aim is to be able to export a complete GEDCOM? ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/7 "2023-07-09T21:39:11Z")
Sorry @Jasper2 --don’t think I can answer that as I did NOT even know you could add notes to the place details UNTIL you posted the question-- perhaps one of the guys will know but it maybe tomorrow before they respond ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.rootsmagic.com/tomh/32/30_2.png) [@TomH](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/8 "2023-07-09T22:44:43Z")
Place Details are exported to GEDCOM and I think their Notes are included. It’s up to the importing software to preserve them as is or convert them to places. RM has no tool that converts Place Details to Places. I wrote one 8 years ago (see [https://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.com/places-conversion-of-place-details-to-places/](https://sqlitetoolsforrootsmagic.com/places-conversion-of-place-details-to-places/) ) and, reviewing it just now, I see that I did nothing about combining the Notes from Place and Place Details. I think that makes sense because it avoids the Place Note being repeated across multiple former Place Details. The original Place remains in the database. The script is untested for RM9. ---
**Author:** ![Rwcrooks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.rootsmagic.com/rwcrooks/32/1151_2.png) [@Rwcrooks](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Rwcrooks)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/9 "2023-07-10T00:51:24Z")
I believe that they did actually support RM8. ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/10 "2023-07-10T11:37:07Z")
I do know that Ancestry does NOT support PLACE DETAILS in their family files --so I used DESCRIPTION in the fact and it worked BUT there is abt a 100 word restriction on Ancestry for the notes and descriptions on a fact ---
**Author:** ![Jasper2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@Jasper2](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Jasper2)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/11 "2023-07-10T14:06:34Z")
Thank you Nancy, thank you all, what I got from the exchanges is that it’s certain that the location detail notes are written in the GEDCOM file. Recovering this data will depend on the application’s ability to use it. Your first and last names make me think of Lorraine or Alsace origins. Am I right? ---
**Author:** ![Jasper2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@Jasper2](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Jasper2)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/12 "2023-07-10T14:31:42Z")
I can confirm this. I checked with a GEDCOM editor. The structure and the data related to the location details are present: 2PLAC 2ADR 3NOTE 4CONT 4CONC . . . Have a nice day ---
**Author:** ![Rooty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rooty](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Rooty)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/13 "2023-07-10T21:56:37Z")
Laughter justified. On mac RM9 now has very few AVs but is still buggy and requires so many clicks back and forth to get anywhere that I will wait for version 10. ---
**Author:** ![nkess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@nkess](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/nkess)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/14 "2023-07-11T00:36:36Z")
Agree completely with the too many clicks as it can cause many errors–seems like that abt the time Rootsmagic fixed all the AV’s on Mac, was when they started happening on more and more on the Windows version 😦 ---
**Author:** ![Rooty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Rooty](https://community.rootsmagic.com/u/Rooty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://community.rootsmagic.com/t/data-conversion-from-rm7-to-rm9-no-place-detail-notes-in-rm9/7915/15 "2023-07-11T03:02:14Z")
AVs are still happening on mac: just not every 5 minutes as initially.